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Post by Host on Feb 22, 2009 20:06:46 GMT -5
Everything will remain in this thread. Please do not make any other threads, because its annoying as hell. This is going to be the only thread. I'm going to make a rough schedule that hope we can follow to it...
Tonight: Opening Statements
Monday: Jury Questions
Tuesday: Finish Jury Questions & Closing Statements
Wednesday: Sole Survivor
Jurors can vote at any time and by any form (confessional or PM.) Good luck Jenn & Tijuana!
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 22, 2009 20:48:03 GMT -5
I'll post mine a little bit later tonight. I need to brainstorm a bit.
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Post by Host on Feb 22, 2009 21:33:05 GMT -5
Rudy's Statement:
Well, Im not surprised ot be sitting here. The host is obviously biased due to the fact that i PMed him and also posted like a lot on the board saying that this weekend IS NOT GOOD.
But whatever.
I would just like to start out by saying, Jenn, you have been so fucking cocky these past couple days. IDK what has gotten into you, but wow. Not liking someone is one thing, but to make someone feel like shit like you do, is not cool.
You told me in IM that you were in fact receiving all 7 votes this season. You said you would win 7-0.
You will not win 7-0, my vote will go to Tijuana.
Tijuana will in fact WIN this game. I hope the other jurors see your cockiness and your willinginess to put others down. I hope they realize that Tijuana, played a great game and didnt piss anyone off. IF Tijuana wins this game, i hope you see this is karma biting you in the ass.
The next time we meet in a game, i will talk to you, and i will not hold a grudge. But this season, in the Faroe Islands, you took making someone feel like shit to a whole new level.
Good Luck to both. You both deserve to be here.
Also, this could change my vote. I have a question to Jenn:
What juror played a good enough game to take Tijuana's spot next to you?
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Post by Host on Feb 22, 2009 21:33:42 GMT -5
Also I would like to say that me posting the Challenge when I did had nothing to do with a bias, I had to do with speed. If I posted the F3 Challenge tomorrow, the F3 round itself would've been about a week and a half.
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Post by Auntie Lill Hoe on Feb 22, 2009 21:42:01 GMT -5
I'm so happy with this final two. I love both of you and will be happy with either of you winning. I'm pretty sure of who I'm voting for... but questions always have an impact so you never know. My question is about the final seven when I came to both of you and asked you to change the game by forming a new alliance of three. At first neither of you wanted to do it, and the funny thing is you wanted to vote eachother out. So what I'm wondering is what your plans were before the game was turned on its head at f7. How did you plan on getting to the end, and why did you ultimately decided that it was smarter to vote off Neleh? Also, please don't ask me who I'm voting for. I won't answer if you do. Good luck!
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 22, 2009 22:01:27 GMT -5
gets up from jury chair and faces the jury
First off...congratulations everyone on making the jury. This has been a tough game and each and everyone of us deserves our position. I'm not great at speeches but I will give it my best shot.
Coming into the game I was a little bit hesitant. Being Runner-Up from Solomon Islands status made me nervous. I started the game triying to not tell people my previous placement. I was placed on the Klaksvik tribe with Rob, Rudy, Nicole, Michelle & Brad. I knew who Nicole & Brad where because I told them to sign-up. Nicole was new to the series & Brad is the famous 3 time Runner-Up. Anyways as we got into the game I learned who Michelle was. I know how sneaky she was but I made sure I talked to her which would sway any votes from her to me. Like 2 days into the game I learned Rudy was Matty. Now I have nothing against him. But I didn't want to be forced into alligning with him because I didn't feel like it would do me any good on my gameplay. We won most challenges as Klaksvik and we only lost once. I tried getting Rudy out and it failed thanks to Michelle's own self-vote which I still don't understand because I told her who the vote was and I think she even agreed. We went various times to the Nordic House but to be honest I didn't try hard to find idols. I never have luck finding them. And this time it was no different. I tried like 1-2 times and gave up. I figured people would have found them already so I never tried until really late in the game.
We had a swap. And my new tribe consisted of 3 Klaksviks & 3 Torshavns. Now Cass & I go way back. And Lill & I are pretty much partners in crime in another series. So I figured I'd be safe. We lost. And Lill PMed me telling me that they were targetting me that I needed an idol. Not much after Cass told me she had one. But I didn't really pay attention. I told Nicole about what happened and she knew Lill also from another game so she asked to be voted out instead of me. Thanks Nicole <3 Then we lost again. Cass told me that night of Tribal Council she had an idol. I was expecting to leave. Randy tried blindsiding me but his PMs were pretty weird and stuff so I never believed him. Cass then gave me her idol knowing of what was going on and we decided to blindside Randy. And he was de-throned. Afterwards we won and all 4 of us made merger...
Now this is where my game got TOUGH. Coming into the Final 9 I knew targets were on me. Because I used an idol to get Randy out. I made sure I won that immunity. Now I didn't talk to people except Cass. I was confident I could keep winning challenges and eventually the whole Final 7 alliance would pick each other out. Now Cass was booted and I was left without allies. So I was pretty discouraged. I didn't want to try until Brad showed me a message from Nicole in pre-jury where she said: I sacrificed myself so Jenn can quit now? And I figured that I needed to make the best of the second chance I got. So I won again. At F7 I thought that I should talk to others and see what was going on. I only learned one thing: Rudy was manipulating everyone and everyone was following his lead. I figured that maybe Rudy would want me over Neleh/Yul or Tijuana/Lill. Figures it wasn't the case...I helped Rob/Rudy win prizes and they were still gunning for me. Lill told me of what was going on. And I made a plan with Tijuana & Lillian to blindside Neleh. It worked and I felt solid in my position in the game. I didn't win and I felt like I was on the chopping block but I had my idol I found when I went to the Nordic House at the Final 8. With my idol I felt confident I could go far into the game and actually started trusting Tijuana/Lillian. I was never certain of what where their plans but I knew anything would backfire. Going to TC. The Lill/Tijuana we're trying to convince me to vote for Rudy. But something was telling me that he had Rob's idol.(he told me he had one at the auction) So I told them to vote out Yul. Another blindside. Going to Final 5 my goal was to win immunity. Then I could give my idol to Tijuana/Lillian with hopes of making all 3 of us Final 4. Now it didn't work since we all know what happened and we got to Final 4. Rudy tried blindsiding me by trying to get me to vote out Tijuana and her to vote me out. FAIL. I beat Rob in the tie-breaker and went to F3. Then won F3 and here I am.
This has been a long speech but I want to show you all that I've worked hard. And that out of all those 9 people who came to the Vestmanna tribe, the target was on me & here I am at Day 39. Outlasted, Outwitted, Outplayed all of you. Who gunned for me and I managed to work my way here. I know some of you might say I depended on immunity. But come to think about it. Had I not won those immunities I would be on your place. People didn't want to work with me. People wanted me out. People lied to me. I had no guarantee of surviving another round unless I won immunities. I hope you all respect and understand my gameplay and all the hard work I put into the game. I hope you vote for the best whether it is me or Tijuana. Good luck making your choice and I will gladly answer any questions.
goes back to my chair
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 22, 2009 22:06:16 GMT -5
Also, this could change my vote. I have a question to Jenn: What juror played a good enough game to take Tijuana's spot next to you? Well there is various names. But out of all of those names I'm pretty much between you & Lill. You somehow manipulated so many people that still today on Day 39 I am impressed at your manipulation skills and how everyone followed your lead. And then I'd have to say Lillian because of this...she's a past winner. Coming into the game she must have been very cautious. She knew a lot of information which helped me a lot. And had this choice had to be between Tijuana and her. I'd actually choose Lillian. Lillian basically opened the path for the rest of the game from Final 7 on for me. For that I thank her. *also the only reason I said I'd win is because you were stalking me in fucking AIM. Saying like oh you're gonna take Tijuana. That's an easy win and all that junk. I honestly wanted to kick the crap out of you. You annoyed me*
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 22, 2009 22:09:30 GMT -5
I'm so happy with this final two. I love both of you and will be happy with either of you winning. I'm pretty sure of who I'm voting for... but questions always have an impact so you never know. My question is about the final seven when I came to both of you and asked you to change the game by forming a new alliance of three. At first neither of you wanted to do it, and the funny thing is you wanted to vote eachother out. So what I'm wondering is what your plans were before the game was turned on its head at f7. How did you plan on getting to the end, and why did you ultimately decided that it was smarter to vote off Neleh? Also, please don't ask me who I'm voting for. I won't answer if you do. Good luck! Well. I had no plan. I was just relying on winning immunities since no one apparently wanted to work with me. Rudy had done a good job targetting me. So yeah. I would only hope my idol and keep winning immunities would get me to the end. And as for voting out Neleh. I knew for fact Rob had an idol. He told me and I believe he showed me a Print Screen. I figured that if we voted Yul it would be too predictable. And I didn't know if Rob's idol was like mines. That if a majority was against him it would activate so I went with who I thought didn't have an idol and could be a potential challenge threat unlike Yul who was semi-active(no offense)
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Post by Aaron Reisberger on Feb 23, 2009 18:47:02 GMT -5
congrats ladies! Final 2 is always a tough to get through with Jury. Questions. I really have none since I didn't get to know both of you well. I will base my vote on how you answer the other jurors' questions. Good luck to you both!
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 23, 2009 19:16:08 GMT -5
Good luck making your choice.
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Post by Mama Tijuana Bitch on Feb 23, 2009 20:14:08 GMT -5
Hey, jurors. Being here is bittersweet for me. There are some of you who I really wish could have made it this far. Unlike in other games, I aligned myself with people who I never expected to work with. Unlike in other games, I found that I was close to almost everybody when we merged. Unlike in other games, I stepped behind someone’s coattail when it was necessary. In Crete, I played a really strong, controlling game that got me far, but got me voted out just before the finals. In Solomon Islands, I played an under the radar game that got me far, but also got me voted out just before the finals. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Parvati and Darrah, but I wanted to make the finals.
So, coming into this game, I took the happy medium. To get me to the finals, I wanted to make sure I would have a majority of people who would not vote me out wherever I was. On my original tribe, I had Aaron, Randy, and Lillian who would not vote me out. They were my first, original alliance. Then, boom, a tribe swap. I really disliked the new tribe, but I pieced something together with Rob C., Neleh, and Yul. The alliance was sort of a mistake, actually. At first, I had just a deal with Neleh and Yul. But then I accidently let it slip that I saw Rob’s idol. So, to cover up for myself and to make sure I had the idol on my side, I aligned myself with Rob too. Aaron was sort of on the ousts (which I felt bad for, to be honest), but he did make it to the merge with us. Once we merged, I knew I would be safe for a while, but I knew I would be targeted around final 7 or final 6 unless I made a move to save myself. Obviously, the clear target was Jenn, but she kept winning immunity. Had she not, she probably would have been voted out around final 8 or so because A: She had no idol and B: Her only ally, Cassandra, was just voted out. Fast forward 3 days, we voted out Aaron because he wasn’t in our alliance. I felt bad for dumping Aaron alongside of the road sort of and lying to him, but it was really the only thing I thought I could do without him flipping to Jenn. Then, in the next week, Lillian suggested aligning with Jenn. We aligned with Jenn and made sure that the votes were split 3-2-2. Unfortunately, that meant Neleh going. But, it would have been me if we hadn’t done that. So, I found myself aligned with the person who I wanted to target from the beginning. My old allies targeted me each week, but because I had flopped, I still was safe. At final 5, I convinced Jenn to give me the idol. I feel horrible for it because I feel totally responsible for Lillian’s ousting. Lillian was the person in this game who I felt like I could turn to no matter what. I felt completely alone when she was voted out. I continued to talk to Jenn and grew closer to her than I ever thought I would after meeting Alexis in Crete. I was offered a final 3 with Rudy and Rob, but I knew that I would lose the final immunity challenge and get third place. I stayed with Jenn, she won in the tiebreaker, and then she took me to the final 2 to keep her promise to me. Good luck making your decisions, Jurors. I really did not expect to be here. I guess my paranoia really helped get me here cause every since the final 9, I’ve feared that I would be screwed over.
Throughout this game, I surprised others and myself, I think. I only lied when it was necessary, I made new friends, and I found that happy medium. I hid behind my alliance until it was needed for me to step into the limelight and play my own game, and that’s why I think I played a good game. I didn’t win immunities to get here. I didn’t lie when it wasn’t necessary to get here. I didn’t push people around to get here. I got here with the strategy I wanted to use in the beginning. Lay low, and then step out of the shadows. That’s what got me here. I might not have been the underdog, but I dodged elimination several times. I fought hard for me spot right here, and I hope you all can see that. Thank you, and good luck making your decision.
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Post by Mama Tijuana Bitch on Feb 23, 2009 20:16:09 GMT -5
I would just like to start out by saying, Jenn, you have been so fucking cocky these past couple days. IDK what has gotten into you, but wow. Not liking someone is one thing, but to make someone feel like shit like you do, is not cool. You told me in IM that you were in fact receiving all 7 votes this season. You said you would win 7-0. You will not win 7-0, my vote will go to Tijuana. Tijuana will in fact WIN this game. I hope the other jurors see your cockiness and your willinginess to put others down. I hope they realize that Tijuana, played a great game and didnt piss anyone off. IF Tijuana wins this game, i hope you see this is karma biting you in the ass. The next time we meet in a game, i will talk to you, and i will not hold a grudge. But this season, in the Faroe Islands, you took making someone feel like shit to a whole new level. Good Luck to both. You both deserve to be here. Thank you, Rudy. I'm actually sort of surprised to have your support, but thank you. If you have any more questions, please ask away.
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Post by Rudy "The Kid' Boesch on Feb 23, 2009 20:20:50 GMT -5
Well, Jenn, you swung me. your responses were amazing. Every time u type I get a hard on ( )....in figure of speech.... You played an amazing game. No one can deny that. U deserve this win. If it wasnt me....or rob....im glad its u. Tijuana did jsut as much as last game...float to the end and hope things work out in her favor. The bitch didnt go wiht me at final 4, so i guess this is payback. i told her that if Jenn makes final 2, she will win. She replied," idk. if she makes it to final 2, she deserves it." Tijuana is right. And Jenn, i hope this doesnt come between our friendship. I was only being annoying because i wanted to guilt you into taking the hard way out and that was taking me to final 2. So therefore, you got 'ol Rudy. U wounded my good leg. Im now on my knees and i will lick ur pussy liek u wanted me to ( ). haha...JOKING [just for Lill]. My vote goes to Jenn.
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Post by Mama Jenn Bitch on Feb 23, 2009 20:34:22 GMT -5
ROFL. Wow Rudy. I am pretty surprised you definitely were the bigger person in this situation. I admire that. And I just wanted to keep my promise to the end. To bring Tijuana. You played a freaking good job in manipulation. And you're definitely an All-Star this season. You brought an A+ game. Thanks for you vote.
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Post by Mama Tijuana Bitch on Feb 23, 2009 21:22:45 GMT -5
Okay, first off, Lillian. I do want to say this to you. I don't know if you'll understand the significance or if you felt the same way at all, but I do want to say it. In games, I tend to play for myself and one other person. Usually, it’s my friend, Liz (Amber in Crete). Recently though and in this game too, I've been becoming closer with you. I still remember my first PM to you about mongooses 7 months ago and actually posted it in our fallen comrades thread. In this game, I did everything I did for both me and you, and I find it so ironic that I was the reason you were voted out. Again, sorry, and I did not intend for it to happen like that at all. I'm so happy with this final two. I love both of you and will be happy with either of you winning. I'm pretty sure of who I'm voting for... but questions always have an impact so you never know. My question is about the final seven when I came to both of you and asked you to change the game by forming a new alliance of three. At first neither of you wanted to do it, and the funny thing is you wanted to vote eachother out. So what I'm wondering is what your plans were before the game was turned on its head at f7. How did you plan on getting to the end, and why did you ultimately decided that it was smarter to vote off Neleh? Also, please don't ask me who I'm voting for. I won't answer if you do. Good luck! Okay, now onto your question. Well, first off, I’ll just share the real reason behind me wanting to vote out Jenn. Not only was she Alexis in season 1 (which was the excuse I used a lot of the time for disliking her before this game), but I knew that I would be competing with her for your support. You’re friends with both of us, and at one point you’d have to choose between the two of us. Coming into this game, I planned to do the same thing I did in Back to Basics Exile Island; make my way to the final two with you. I know it’s a bit farfetched in terms of strategy, but that game had probably my favorite ending in two years of online reality games. Like I said above, I tried to do things that would set the two of us up well come merge. We were allies the whole game, and we plotted nearly everything together. But when we merged and you presented this plan to me, it really gave me a chance to play my own game. I turned on my alliance with you and voted out Neleh because, well, I would have been voted out if I didn’t. I thought that voting out Neleh would set me up well for the upcoming weeks. After that, my strategy was just to try to go as far as I could because I thought I would never be able to make the final 2. I guess that that means my strategy was very similar if not the same as yours was in this game. In a weird way, I’m actually happy with that because I tend to just emerge as a threat in the beginning and either go very far, or nowhere at all. By just making alliances and trying my hardest to stick to them without jepordizing my own position, I met the happy medium inbetween Darrah, the under the radar four placer, and Parvati, the over the radar third placer. And that’s what got me to where I am right now. For once, I didn’t overthink or overanalyze my position in this game. I hope this can help sway your decision and good luck making your decision, Lillian, and watch out for mongooses. I hear dem’ mongeese are meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
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